Preparedness

Sales of firearms and ammunitions are on the rise again in the wake of COVID-19 crisis. Some try to explain it by saying people want a tangible item to ease the fear, but what's left out is the fact that fear may lead to social unrest, necesating the possession of firearms.

This is a sad photograph of people lining up in front of a gun store in Los Angeles. Technically in Culver City, but there are hardly any  gun stores in City of Los Angeles, so people have to drive out to surrounding cities to get in line for one.

California has 10 day waiting period, as well as background check for purchase of ammunition. Everyone in the line has to wait 10 days before they can pick up their purchased gun.

If any one had their guns before, then they would have avoided this situation. If anyone had enough ammunition to go with that gun, they would have avoided this situation.

Same goes for training. It is very unlikely that people rushing to buy firearms are sufficiently proficient in its use. Having a firearm is better than having just a pointy stick, but learning how to effectively use a firearm in self-defense situation requires some amount of training.

This is something that can't be done in an hour. It requires frequent training and refreshers. It's not about some high-speed-low-drag course, but a course where basic tactics are taught should be sufficient.

When the situation happens, there is no time for rehearsal. You have to deal with it.

Hopefully, this crisis will remind people to invest in firearms as a part of self-defense and sustainment in the time of crisis. Even better would be getting some training and retraining the skill.

This extends to other parts of life as well. There is a need to learn basic skills in first-aid, mechanical devices. We can't just rely on apps to get us through tough times. Each individual must be able to conduct some degree of action to protect themselves.

Virtra (and other video) training

Virtra system is a video training system. The system projects video and registers the response a user gives when he pulls the trigger which emits laser.

Why would someone use a laser gun with CO2 gas instead of shooting a real gun? Systems like this is about decision making and adding more realism to one's training. There is no substitute for actual experience, but systems like VirTra can get trainees closer to it.

Shooting at targets on range can only go so far. Adding more to incorporate decision making segment eventually requires more money and resources. Want moving targets? You need to get moving target stands. Most of the stands are stationary, and anything that moves in horizontal direction will require some serious setup. Systems like VirTra allows less average cost to train, while increasing number of various scenarios that can be thrown in.

A famous scenario from VirTra 300. Yes, that is a nut shot.

However, it is not the last level of training before the real experience. Going through a good force-on-force training probably will do a lot more as actors are real humans and there are many different reactions, more than what a video training system can provide. But the problem with force-on-force is setting up a good one, not to mention the cost in the long run. The biggest cost probably would be labor cost for human actors.

Placed in between the range sessions and using force-on-force, video training systems adds more options for training. It is really difficult to find a good force-on-force training. There are some outfits like SureFire Institute that provides a good program, but it's not available to average citizens in a lot of places. Having a video training system is still tougher than finding a shooting range, but there has been more sightings of video training systems and hopefully they will catch on more.

The caveat is that the system operator needs to be competent. System operator can just play scenarioes, but to use correct one and give correct feedback is essential. Anyone can buy a system with enough money, but getting the most out of the system would require understanding of dynamics of gunfight as well as understanding the applicable use of force policy or law.

A scenario is reviewed on VirTra 300.

The advantage of VirTra 300 system is getting close to a 360 degree environment. This allows user to challenge his techniques to break any bad or inadequate habits formed on a square range where there is only one(or limited) direction available. Some train to look left and right after engaging and stopping the first threat, but scenarios on VirTra 300 really puts it to the test.

Recently, Haley Strategic started offering classes using VirTra. There has been some other places such as Artemis Institute offering it as well, and hopefully there will be more quality offering in the future.

Korean Glock Copy

The Firearm Blog posted some photos form PK Design Lab.

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/10/30/potd-korean-made-glock-clone/

PK Design Lab is the company founded by Paul Kim, who was the VP of engineering at SureFire. Kim has left the company some years ago and works on various projects. He was involved in Lionheart pistol, an updated version of Daewoo DP-51 pistol.

It seems like he is now involved with the Korean Glock Copy. As of current, a lot of patents for Glock has expired and there are some remaining patents, but most of the gun can be built without problem now.

Looking closely at the photos, the first thing that stands up is the modularity of the pistol. The main part/chasis is the part that deals with all the internals. Just like SIG P320, that's the part that will be important for function. The photo shows that, and it is also reminiscent of STI 2011 set up.

This would allow modularity for armorers to fit the gun for whatever the different needs are.

Main recoil spring is that of a double spring variety. It is not sure why such design would be preferred, as H&K abandoned the design after USP. But to each to his own.

The slide is something that some Glock aficionados would be familiar with. It is the Lonewolf Slide.

The slide is actually manufactured by Dasan USA, whose parent company is a South Korean company. This company has been making them for a long time, and perhaps is the easiest after market slide to get. Dasan has been making some other parts as well, including Thales F90 parts, the new service rifle for Australian Defence Forces.

The TFB article asks if someone will import this. The question is is it made in South Korea. South Korea has very strict gun laws and personal ownership of pistol is very difficult to the point that it is impossible. Perhaps someone wants to enter the US pistol market with this.

Another possibility is that it maybe something they are trying to sell to South Korean military. This appeared at ADEX exhibition in Seoul Air Show. Daewoo pistol is now showing its age and perhaps there might be some rumblings about a new pistol.

Preparing for sales due to emergency

What would happen to your guns if you are seriously injured, or even worse, dead?

When someone is seriously injured or dead, figuring out what will happen to guns is not the priority for most people. For other members of the family and relatives, it is not the most important thing as well.

One of things your collection of guns can provide is some form of money if it can be sold. About half of Americans do not have $500 in emergency in their savings account, which means in case of emergency, something has to be sold off to cover the cost.

Unfortunately, trying to get immediate cash by selling guns will greatly decrease the amount you can get from the market value. Pawn shops are easiest to access for immediate cash, but it also greatly reduces the amount you can get in exchange for convenience. Selling it to gun stores has similar affects as well.

So if you can afford to take some time, you can put it on to consignment and hope that the gun gets sold reasonably fast. If not, you'd have to lower price.

Similar situation happens when you try to sell your guns via person-to-person transfer as well.

Another thing is pricing.

You can't make it too cheap and need to know the value of the gun. If the family is not knowledegable about guns, getting a decent estimate is not easy.

One resource they can use is GunBroker.com

By typing in the make and model, it could give slightly better estimate than just guessing. The prices on Gunbroker has been ridiculed but it does give a starting point. Instead of MSRP prices that can be found(if it is posted on the manufacturers's website) it may give slightly better estimation. One of things you can do is to remind that discounting a certain amount, say 10%, would get better estimate before hand.

Another thing to remind is that custom works do not add value. While the said custom work may mean something to the owner, it probably doesn't fit the potential buyer's taste, and reduce the pool of buyers. This is especially true if it's some custom job done on a polymer gun. There are plenty of those custom works and it doesn't add value.

If it's a rare custom job by a well known gunsmith on a rare handgun, it maybe able to bring in more, but those are far and few inbetween.

Also, it would be a good idea to have list of your guns and the estimated value ready. For surviving families, having any kind of guidance on what to do is a great help. It reduces workload and allows faster sales.

It is very common for us to put off doing it, but having a decent preparedness ready could significantly help those who can benefit from it.

It's buyer's market

In a recent study, estimated gun sales of July 2017 went down by 26% compared to the previous year. However the year 2016 was more of abnormality since many were worried about the Presidential election and was buying to hedge the chance that Clinton would have won.

http://www.guns.com/2017/08/04/july-estimated-gun-sales-plummet-26-percent/

Now that the chance of restrictive firearms law is lessened, the sales declined. In response, manufacturers are also giving out rebates and slashing prices. Manufacturers probably were worried about the election and had plans or increased manufacturing capacities. That created a lot more supply, and with less demand, the price fell.

Recently, Sturm, Ruger announced that it's second quarter sales dropped 22%.

http://www.guns.com/2017/08/04/sturm-ruger-sales-down-22-percent-in-second-quarter/

Winchester Ammunition also had similar situation where their sales dipped 15% in the second quarter.

http://www.guns.com/2017/08/02/olin-ceo-the-worst-is-over-for-winchesters-slumping-ammo-sales/

This means that if you are a buyer who has been looking in to buying a new gun, the time is right. It doesn't mean that the price will rise back up to pre-election level soon, but rather, the manufacturers will adjust their output level so it won't be this low.

Ammunition prices will be less likely to drop now with so many guns sold as well as impending ban on internet ammunition sales in California driving purchases up. Gun sales probably will not recover as fast as the ammunition sales, but the time is now if you want some good deals.

Importance of commercial market for guns

US Military is currently pursuing various small arms programs with great enthusiasm, and there is a common element in all the programs. Most, if not all, programs are looking for something that can be found in commercial market, COTS(Commercial Off The Shelf) items as they are referred as.

Some parts of the program involve the military working on specific things, but overall, the Department of Defense is soliciting what firearm industry can provide.

Looking for a new caliber? Try using wildcat rounds available in commercial market and see if it can be adjusted to fit the need.

Looking for an upgrade? Take a look at commercially available upgrade parts and see if they can be fit to the need. It can be an AR upper setup, accessory, or something else.


Compare that to some nations's loss of small arms manufacturing capability.

• France is now adopting H&K 416 as their national arsenal has been closed for many years.
• Spain has no decent firearms manufacturing company
• United Kingdom sold off it's big manufacturers and can't expect to have a domestic manufacturer any time soon.

All these are result of downsizing. A factory cannot run unless there is a cashflow available. Large government contracts are great, but when that runs out, it becomes difficult for a company to survive.

Luckily, in US, there is a big commercial market which can help with improving designs and come up with new ideas. Magpul, BCM are some of many examples of companies that pushed the innovation leading to better issued rifles. This is possible because there is a commercial market which can sustain the innovation.

The drive for money from the commercial market keeps a lot of companies float, and that in turn gives more options for government purchasing.

Government can show which directions things can change, but there is need for commercial market to support it. Manufacturers can see what the market wants and use the data and feedback from the market. In a sense, market becomes the largest tester. If something survives in a commercial market, it has better chance of providing better value for the government as well.

Youtube and gun videos

The most recent talk of firearms community not related to firearms is Youtube putting Restricted label on gun related videos. This was a part of change implemented by Youtube over monetization policy. Now, any channel that wants to monetize needs to get 10,000 views total before doing so.

Along with that came the labeling. Youtube (owned by Google, which owns Blogger which this blog is running on) decided to unilaterally cover anything remotely considered controversial as Restricted. The word is that gun related videos are not the only one impacted by this decision.

This is not the first time Youtube decided to put restriction on gun related video. Hickok45 had his account shutdown twice for some reason. Royal Nonesuch lost his monetization after South Korea government complained that his DIY gun building video contributed to a lunatic building one and killing a police officer.

So what can be done?

SHOT Show 2017

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More coverages will be posted after the show

Hello 2017

2017 is here and let's ponder what can happen this year.


1. Favorable climate for the Second Amendment
With Donald Trump's win, the threat to the Second Amendment is reduced, and with  both the House and the Senate majority held by the Republicans, it is far less likely that there will be more restriction on Federal level.

It doesn't necessarily mean Trump will undo decades of restrictions in one swoop of a pen, but at least gun grabbers will be stopped on their tracks, giving some room for breathing. It is a never-ending fight and if Trump administration undo some restrictions, it will give an even better climate for the shooting community.


2. Ammunition price could be holding on
With Trump administration in the White House, the Second Amendment will less likely be restricted, but California enacted several laws, one of which is restriction of ammunition sales.

The new law restricts where and how gun owners can purchase ammunition and retail stores have to keep a record of who purchased how much. It also bans internet purchases.

The law won't go in to effect until 2018, but with so many firearms purchased to before the new California Assault Weapon Ban, it is very likely that people will buy ammunition to shoot it, or at least stack up on ammunition.

California is a big market, and with all the demands, the national demand will stay the same, if not higher, which means price could stay the same.

3. More innovations
Innovations tend to be fostered when there are better climate for returns as well as bigger market. There was a lot of prediction that Hillary Clinton would win and a lot of companies expected a national run on firearms, so they probably redirected their resources to producing current models than developing new ones.

Now that risk is gone, innovations and niche items could grow a lot more. There are some firearms that will appear at the 2015 SHOT Show with innovative features, so by 2018 SHOT Show it would be an exciting time in the industry.


and yes, GNB will be heading to SHOT Show as always.

GNB: Vickers Tactical Grip Plug/Takedown tool

Glock has numbers of modification parts available and there are plenty of competing products for similar, if not same functions. One of things that are not exactly on the top of the list - but can be done easily - is inserting a plug in to Glock's grip. By placing a plug, dirt won't get in, as well as improving magazine reload.

For Gen 3 guns, this can be done by numerous grip plugs. The most recent one is Vickers Tactical Grip Plug/Takedown tool

When you install the plug, it protrudes a little from the grip.

With a factory magazine inserted, there might be a few millimeters of difference between the bottom of magazine and grip plug, but it is so minute.

With magazines that have Vickers Glock Magazine plate, it is even.

So when you insert magazine, there is no chance that it will hurt your delicate palm.


There were no problems while performing some reloading drills. Some people might be bothered by the protrusion, but functionality comes before aesthetics.


Compared to my Jentra grip plug, there are some differences between the two.

Jentra on top, Vickers on bottom

With Jentra plug, there is a small offset between the back wall of the magazine well and end of the plug. This has never been a problem, and don't think it will be, but Vickers Grip plug leads up to the edge of the magazine well more naturally.

Jentra on top, Vickers in bottom

Vickers Grip Plug added enough extra length to the grip to make it feel almost like a Glock 17 grip on my Glock 19. If someone wants the stock Glock 19 grip length(for CCW purpsoe), this plug may not be the person's choice, but for those who don't worry about it, it won't be an issue.


There has to be some advantage over other competing products such as Jentra(around $7), Ghost(around $9), and Pearce. One of such advantage is the built-in aluminum takedown tool. This is not the first of its kind. PSI Tac-Rac plug-tool has been around for sometime, but Vickers Grip Plug brings more to the table than take down tool.

The most pronounced feature is that this tool can be easily pulled out from the grip. Most of the competing products offer flush fit which forces users to use other pointy tools to take out the plug if needed. Vickers Grip Plug protrudes enough for quick and easy access just by using Glock magazine. In fact, Tangodown specifically warns about using pointy objects to take the plug out.


Overall, I think this is a very good addition for those who will occasionally need a field expedient work. Instead of carrying a Glock Armorer Tool, this plug does multiple functions(block dirt from getting in, magazine insertion help, and armorer tool) at once.

Retaining proficiency level, revisited

Last year, I wrote about some things shooters can do to retain their proficiency level.

The three recommended items were, dry-fire, reloading, and transition from target to target

Those items were written when the shooter cannot go to a shooting range due to time or resource constraint. But what if you can actually go to a range, but the range has some restrictions, such as one shot per second commonly found in many public ranges?

Many public ranges, especially indoor ranges, have the restriction to deter shooters from rapid firing and curb chances of errant round hitting wrong places. Some places don't allow holster work, fearing you will become the next Tex Grebner ("I just fucking shot myself!")

It is a bit discouraging, but there are some things a shooter can do to retain, and maybe even improve one's skill.

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1. Picking up the gun from shooting bench - this skillset can be used for both defensive use and competition. Put your gun on table, and wait a few seconds. Then pick up the gun, aim and if you can, fire. You can use one or both hands.

Caution: Don't try to go too fast. People will end up with their trigger finger in trigger guard and end up sending a round unintended.

2. Shooting from a ready position - If you are investigating a bump at night, you probably will hold the gun in a ready position. Having the first well-placed shot is important if the unfortunate event do happen. Most ranges do not like a loaded gun pointing up, so you might have to limit yourself to the low ready position.

Work on bringing the gun up and getting a good sight picture, then on breaking the shot.

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Both skills are just a part of many skill sets a good shooter needs to have, but can be  useful in case you need to fire a shot.

For target, instead of using a big silhouette, try something relatively small like 4-6 inch diameter circles. Place them beyond 7 yards and aim to get all rounds in the circle. For more challenge, you can put the target further out, but I recommend something inside of 15 yards.

Also, make sure you get a good follow-through. This is one thing dry-fire can't do.

Of course, it helps to have a good timer.

Self-evaluation and improvement using drills

There are many drills out there and most of them have very good use. For example, El Presidente drill incorporates transition from targets, reloading, as well as turning around. FAST drill challenges shooters to switch from accuracy to speed after reload. The Test is all about shooting fundamentals.

One of things we can do, aside from practicing various skills, is to use the drills as a method to evaluate our shooting skills. Using a timer and an accuracy standard, we can see how good or bad we are.

Go out to range, set up a drill, and see how you can do. If you are able to maintain a standard, you can safely say that you are that good according to what the drill is supposed to be about.

If you cannot maintain a consistent standard, it is time to break it down to its components and work on it, then use the drill to see if you improved. Is it transition from target to target? reload? presentation? Those small components has to be refined  in order to improve overall performance.

Make sure you can meet the standard you set any time, any where. Making the standard once and missing it rest of other times is not meeting the standard. It is being able to meet the standard on-demand that matters.

It is very tempting to practice the drills until you get the result you want. But let's ask ourselves some question about such practice. Are we trying to get better at a particular drill or are we trying to improve our shooting skills?

It probably would be better in long run to work on components and use drills as a way to measure, than to repeatedly trying a drill and getting used to it.

Thoughts on appendix carry

Recently there was a bruhaha when Larry Vickers and Mike Pannone banned AIWB carry from their open classes(public classes). This came after some incidents and it was probably not the only two cases involving the AIWB carry.

The major problem with the AIWB is that in case of a mistake, bullets can travel through important areas, much more than the traditional belt carry. Your penile region is located nearby, and femoral artery is not that far away. Compared to that, traditional carry at 3 o'clock has less chance of hitting vital areas.

The pros of carrying AIWB are,
- excellent placement for fast draw
- good concealment

Cons are.
- not the best for several body types
- bigger injury in case of negligent discharge

There are ways to mitigate some issues regarding comfort and it involves some experiment with holster and its placement. If the AIWB method works well for you then it should not be discouraged, provided you are capable of not hurting yourself.

However, there are some differences one should consider before getting indignant about  AWIB ban in classes. In traning classes, a shooter will holster multiple times during the tranining. In case someone uses their CCW, they will most likely holster once or only a few times.

As number of repetition increases, complacency sips in. It is the instructor's job to make sure students are safely handling guns. But it is also(if not more) important that the student is aware of his action. Unfortunately, chances of Mr. Darwin visiting increases with repetition.

Appendix carry has been around for a long time. It is not something that came out of thin air. However, considering there were a lot more of side carry instead of appendix carry, one has to wonder why.

Interesting magazine failure

A handgun's magazine is one of parts that cannot be taken for granted. In any semi auto, issues with magazines usually end up being a serious malfunction.

Here's an example of rare example of magazine failure. In this photo, it seems everything is ok.

But the magazine fails to push cartridges up. Sprig is fine. Why is this happening?

One round is stuck at the bottom. There were no sticky substance involved here. But why?

It's because  there is a small dent in one of witness holes. Some time ago, an object fell on this magazine and dent that exat spot.

Being a 1911 single stack magazine, there is little room for cartriges to move around, and that small dent, a few millimeters deep, caused this.

This is a really rare case and it is reasonable to say it is not a typical failure. Nonetheless, it shows that things can happen and magazines should not be taken for granted.

Retaining proficiency level

It can be quite difficult to maintain the live fire practice amount due to professional and family commitment, as well as market conditions affecting ammunition supply and price.

Some of the things a shooter can do to retain their skill level in times like these are,

1. Dry-fire: This is the easiest thing to do that won't cost any money. Trigger pull is one of the most important aspect of firing a gun and dry-firing is one of the best ways to retain the skill. It still won't replace actual live-fire, but is really better than not doing anything.

2. Reloading: It is nice to be able to shed some time from loading and being able to do it consistently over multiple times is great. Practice various reloading techniques and it costs nothing. Emergency, Speed, and tactical reloading can be practiced, and if you want to add some realism, you can use snap caps.

3. Transition from target to target: This is something you can do to enhance your multiple target shooting skills. You don't have to incorporate dry-firing(although if you can, it's highly recommended), and just focus on honing your small details.

Personal recommendation is to have 3-4 targets or aiming points and practice transitions. You can practice with two targets, but it is better with 3 or more from personal experience. You can also adjust distance away from target to account for angle you have to move.

With these kinds of practice, a shooter should be able to retain proficiency level he had before. It does require the shooter to make some time, but if you can spare 10-15 minutes each day, it should be plenty for casual shooters.

Shooting skills are perishable skills, and if you can prevent skill degradation, then you are doing well.

GNB: H&K VP9 review

This is not the first time H&K made a striker-fired pistol(last being P7) made of polymer(last being VP-70). However since the USP line became the main model for H&K pistols, the rule seemed to be a polymer frame with hammer. Subsequent designs(P2000, HK45, and P30) all followed such rule.

Fast foward about 25 years or so, the market warmed up to striker-fired pistols and is now the norm thanks to proliferation of Glocks and others. With the change in market, H&K had to adapt, and this is their offering.

When you first open the case, it comes with 2 sets of side panels, 2 sets of backstrap, an extra magazine(LE version comes with 2 extra magazines), gun, and other goodies it comes with. The gun itself looks like a cousin of P30, or as one my friend so eloquently stated, "bastard of a one-night stand between a P30 and Walther PPQ."

The basic version comes with glow-in dark sights that light up as bright green glow when you apply some lights. Personal experience says that a 5 second application of a 50 lumen light is good enough to keep the glow on for about a few minutes. LE version comes with tritium sights made by Meprolights(Truglo)

There is nothing much to say about the cosmetics, and the real fun begins when you actually shoot.

GNB: Glock was not the first

There are some incorrect things about some of Glock's features being the first of its kind.

1. The first polymer frame pistol - The first commercial polymer frame pistol that had some success was H&K's VP 70. It was a bit futuristic design coupled with a heavy trigger pull which ultimately sealed its fate. Ironically when Gaston Glock first made his pistol he contacted H&K to see if they are interested in making the Glock 17.


2. The first trigger safety - The trigger safety for Glock pistols was something when it came out, but the idea was already put in to production in 1880s by Iver Johnson's .32 caliber pistols. You can see photos from icollector or Armslist


What Glock brought to the market is an affordable semi-auto that is reasonably priced and reliable. When many police departments were switching their standard issue pistol from revolvers to semi-autos, Glock was the best choice considering many factors.

Glock is not going away anytime soon despite some serious competition, and has taken over the place of Browning Hi-powers. It was not the first in many things but it does a lot of things well and that's something to be proud of.

GNB: Bore-tips

Bore-tips are foam swabs designed for bore cleaning. It comes in various calibers from .22 to 12 ga. Maker SWAB-ITS market this as improved alternative over traditional patches or jags.

The package comes with swabs you can detach individually and use with cleaning rod. Once you screw the swab in to the rod, you can apply cleaning solution and run it through barrel of the gun. The shape allows more uniform application inside a barrel compared to traditional method.

This swab can be used for applying lubricants to other parts as well. lubricating barrel, rails and other places can be done.

Each swab can be reused many times, so for users who clean multiple firearms this would be something to consider. Price for .357/9mm was around $5 and comes with 6 swabs.

GNB: Battlefield Vegas

When firearm enthusiasts come to Las Vegas, there is usually a plan to stop by a shooting range and have fun with select-fire weapons. The oldest in town is The Gun Store on Tropicana Ave. Within last few years there has been some other new ranges.

Battlefield Vegas is one of those relative new comers. Located behind Circus Circus, it is a bit off the Strip, but has been building its business steadily since it opened.

GNB - Radom MSBS impressions

Radom is relatively unknown to general US shooters and if someone knows their name they mainly think of the pistol. Last year they brought out their new carbine they have been working on. This year GNB finally got to take a look at it.

Radom has been working on their MSBS rifle for sometime and is currently going through Polish military test. Poland Military is going through a modernization process and the company hopes that their latest model will be chosen to replace current standard issue which is similar to AKM.

On the first look some people immediately will think of ACR. There is so much resemblance that it is hard to shake off the thoughts that it may be a copy. Copying other firearm design has been a part of gun design for centuries and this could end up being one of such examples.

Holding the rifle up, you can feel that center of mass being a bit more to the front than an AR. Some rifles such as SIG 556 have that feeling and the good news is that recoil gets tamed.

One thing that I immediately noticed was the placement of charging handle. It was just in front of magazine well, and when you pull it, optics and red dot sights might get in the way. This is something that has been pointed out as a problem with SCAR and hopefully will be redesigned.

Magazine release and safety were ambidextrous which is a plus for modern designs. Buttstock was collapsible and foldable too. Cheakpiece could be adjusted as well. An interesting(and brilliant) point is that 80% of components could be used for bullpup version. From manufacturing perspective, this is a great cost saver and for users, a bit of versatility. The bullpup design on the floor was a 3D printed version for display, but for bullpup aficionados this could be something interesting.

The grenade launcher at the bottom is a unique design. Once you fire, as you move your trigger finger to the front, you push the button located in the front which opens  barrel to the shooter's left. Put fresh grenade in and push the barrel back in.

When asked about entering US market, the rep mentioned that since the company doesn't have plenty of capital, if MSBS is chosen for Poland military, that revenue will enable the company to venture out to this market.

Just like CZ 805 from two years ago, eastern European countries are starting to catch up with current market. There is a small part in mind that roots for these underdogs, and hopefully they will be able to bring this into the market.